Shouldn’t that tell you something? Both parties share the same end game, they just want to go about it differently. They want to win and we have to lose to make that happen. Bernie actually wanted to fix the problems Americans deal with. None of the others think you deserve it.
It still baffles me that Cory Booker spoke through the night to inspire people…and then voted to confirm Trump appointees anyway. I do not understand what goes through these people’s heads.
Performative Politics.
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Maybe stating the obvious here: their interests are more aligned with Trump than with Bernie.
Just sadness washes my body these days.
We desperately need electoral reform. There’s no issue with moderates existing. The issue is that currently the choice is either moderates or fascists. And the fascists are quite adept at portraying the moderates as authoritarian communists.
What a profound lack of any knowledge of legislative history.
I’ll admit it’s a bit of hyperbole but the amount of effort they put into shutting Bernie out left me with quite the sour taste.
He isn’t in the DNC and they still include him in their presidential primaries, if anything it seems unfair how much preferential treatment he gets compared to other third parties.
They didn’t include him out of kindness but because excluding him would alienate a huge part of their base. They publicly let him in and then behind the scenes made sure he wouldn’t get far.
Recent events have shown clearly how much more public support Bernie is able to pull compared to those deluded old establishment types in the DNC. Schumer keeps yapping the same old platitudes while their numbers keep falling. Meanwhile Bernie’s selling out stadiums even in red states.
He did get far. Millions of people voted for him, he won many districts, and then lost the primaries due to the fact that millions more people voted for Hillary and for Biden.
Yes, people ended up voting for Hillary and Biden after the DNC tipped the scales in favor of Biden and Hillary. Maybe the DNC should give him an equal opportunity.
So you admit it was a fair and democratic primary, that Hillary and Biden got more votes by huge margins?
Keep on toeing that party line. It’s doing wonders for the DNC.
Whats being anti-establishment doing for you? You enjoy having Trump?
Republicans… Dems… All brought to you by aspiring billionaire oligarchs to NOT do their job for YOU. Learn to spot the progressive agents of change, and pay close attention to who blocks them the most fiercely. The status quo is the enemy.
Bernie threatens their way of life, which is making money doing nothing of note.
every time i bring up the DNC railroading Bernie in 2016, i get brigaded by status quo idiots
They did the same in 2020 then did away with all pretenses of input in 2024 and just told us who the candidate was going to be
Hate to defend them, but that’s not really an accurate portrayal of what happened in 2024.
Biden should have announced he wasn’t running and allowed the primary process to play out. If he hadn’t, then the DNC should have overridden him. It’s unbelievable that they didn’t anticipate or care that Trump would win again.
It was a pretty convenient way for them to hand pick a nominee. Given how the last two played out I don’t think that’s an unfair lens to view the situation through.
I’m sorry that bringing up how absolutely not even close both of those primaries were makes me an idiot.
It’s almost like they were, until the Democrats put their fingers on the scale. Weird how that turned out.
Oh yeah those Democrats, hurting democracy by…
convincing 14 million more people to vote for them…?
You mean the same Democrats that refuse to have an actual democratic primary? The ones that openly said in court that they rigged things in favor of their preferred candidates? Yes, they are hurting democracy.
So it’s only democratic if you like the outcome?
No, it’s democratic if the voters get to decide. If those in charge get to decide, it’s undemocratic, like the DNC.
Here’s a quick guide on how Democracy works. If you read it first, we can both save time: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy
Look at who won the popular votes in the primaries. It wasn’t even fucking close!
In plenty of countries the Democrats would be considered a right wing party, the US does not have a true left party
I feel like after what happened in Germany recently that doesn’t hold as much water. If the average left wants to defend socialized healthcare and tax the rich, then the Dems are left.
Democrats don’t want to do either of that. Folks like AOC and Bernie should realistically be on their own party.
Create one, and all it will do is suck away Democratic votes, further emboldening Repblicant fascists.
What if…. (and hear me out) the Democrats were actually left wing?
That’s the way. Change the Democrats. Don’t just set up an ill-fated 3rd party that will never win and guarantees they lose. How do you change the Democrats? Well it won’t be with pushing buttons on our phones. The best way to change them is to become them. Run for office. Look at AOC and Bernie. Let’s get 50 more of each of them and then see what life looks like.
Trump is a rival in the same sports league. Bernie sometimes dares to question whether the league should even exist
Leftists fighting Democrats. 🤬
Leftists fighting Trump. 🤨
Yeah let’s compare effort made against trump by the left vs the entrenched democratic establishment’s effort, and try again. Like even within the party, let’s do AOC and Walz vs Schumer and Booker.
You say that as if you didn’t realise you were exactly confirming my point.
Imagine still simping for your guy after he lost his primary almost ten years ago.
“Imagine believing in something”
I’m as anti-conspiracy as anyone with two braincells to rub together, but simply believing that Bernie was unfairly treated and that he would have been a good choice for the country does not a simp make. It just means you had the gumption to believe in the consistency of a politician who’d spent some 30 years walking-the-walk and talking-the-talk.
The nomination was not stolen from Bernie - even getting within ~10% of Clinton was a miracle. Bernie was unfairly treated by the Dem party establishment - they did not want Bernie to win, and were not shy about that fact. These are not mutually exclusive positions.
That’s not the bad part it’s clinging to a now eighty-three year old as if he’s the only savior when he hasn’t even spent the time mentoring someone to take over his own seat much less built a movement it kind of sad.
I’m a fan of term limits so he shouldn’t even be in government anymore we need someone with fresh ideas.
I’m not interested in entering this argument (I lose IQ points every time I argue with a centrist), but I have to say: The inconsistency in your beliefs is palpable, Mr/Miss “I support Joe Biden”.
he’s the only savior when he hasn’t even spent the time mentoring someone to take over his own seat much less built a movement it kind of sad.
It’s only inconsistent if you ignore Harris and how she almost won.
You and reality don’t seem to be on good terms.
We’re fine thanks.
Imagine the Clinton campaign, the DNC, and mainstream media colluding in 2015 to boost Trump as a pied piper candidate because they thought he was “unelectable” - and Hillary losing to him.
Oh wait, that’s reality. You don’t need to imagine.
That was ten years ago and you haven’t moved on.
I’ve moved on, I’m just informing others that the Democrats are responsible for the situation we’re all in more than most know.
Thanks for your concern.
No, the people who voted Trump or didn’t vote are the ones to blame for the situation today.
Voting harder for Democrats isn’t the solution, that’s for sure.
If Democrats wanted to take responsibility, they would’ve shifted to the left and appealed to the many countless disenfranchised voters.
I feel it’s fair to say that both major parties are traitors to the American people at this point.
Both sides are the same is a lazy attitude and doing it while there’s no alternative is criminal.
Both sides are the same is a lazy attitude and doing it while there’s no alternative is criminal.
I said they are both traitors. Not that the parties are the same.
We need to demand voting and election system reform after Trump is impeached or is otherwise removed from power.
Why does anyone have to “move on”? Why can’t we hold them accountable?
Is the ten year temper tantrum doing anything besides helping MAGA gain power?
What part is the “temper tantrum”?
Is this “temper tantrum” in the room with you now?
Maybe look at the meme at the top of the page.
You poor child. That’s what adults call a “joke”. Have you been not taking your medications?
