• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
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    4 days ago

    Nonviolent means are not physically violent towards people - it works because of violence all the same though

    Nonviolent means can (and often do) work when oriented towards pressuring a population. That’s not a reason to discount the value of nonviolent means oriented towards moral persuasion. That’s all I’m saying.

    There’s always violence. It can be implied, it can be against yourself, it can be against property, it can be against the feeling of normalcy itself - but there’s always some kind of violence. Because ultimately, violence is asserting your will over others, and that’s what a movement does

    Is persuasion, then, violence as well?

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      4 days ago

      I’m not writing off nonviolent means - I’m a strong believer in the third path. But you have to understand what you’re doing… It is not enough to hold signs and march. It matters where and how you march, when you march, and the physical consequences of you marching

      Is persuasion violence? Sometimes. When there’s any degree of coercion, it’s violence

      You need the coercion. You need to wake people the fuck up and make them pay attention.

      They want to live their lives and ignore the scary reality of this takeover of society. They want to stop watching the news. I understand it… This shit is terrifying to live through. I feel the urge to put my head in the sand too

      We cannot let them. And that is coercion. That is violence… Just a far better kind of violence