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    No, but he and by extension the DNC made a catalogue of avoidable errors that allowed Trump to win a second term. They’re not responsible for Trump’s madness, but they sure have to share a large portion of the blame for failing to read the situation. Trump was able to unify batshit insane conservatives far more effectively than Biden and Harris were able to unify liberals and progressives. Not enough people turned out for them.

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        At no point did I say that. And you accuse me of bad faith. In any case, being better than Trump is not an effective campaign strategy in the real world. Not enough people turned out to support the Dems, and they need to ask themselves why.

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          Democrats lost the working class, and no party can win without them. They need to ask themselves why, but that takes self-reflection. They would rather point and scream like babies, ‘orange man bad!’ Look at the democrats today, mostly neo-liberals, with no message, no solutions, no rage against the war, absolutely no policies to draw the working class back, dead in the water. Not even a prospect for leadership, except Klobuchar, Buttigieg and Newsom. You think they are going to wow the working class back to vote democrat?

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          You said things would be just as bad if Biden was president. That is a bad faith argument. I rebut it so you continually move the goalpost. That is arguing in bad faith. I’m fucking tired of this both sides are bad bullshit while we’re living under a christo-fascist dictatorship. We don’t need perfect, we need better. Voters continually take in this Russian right wing propaganda that says if Dems aren’t perfect then don’t vote for them, and all it gets us is further and further to the right. Go talk to a wall, I don’t care to hear any more of this drivel.

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            bombs children backs a genocide backs down on the majority of their promises screws over the working class bails out the rich runs torture programs

            “…if Dems aren’t perfect…”

            I think you might have a skewed understanding of the word “perfect”