Which makes them suckers.

Birth lottery is most of it. They let a few exceptional tokens through, enough to keep the fantasy alive.

I consider being a grind culture warrior true believer to be considerably dumber than a lottery ticket addict

This just just absolutist and naive. I know you think it’s the height of virtue to see the world in such simple terms, but it isn’t taking the world, or humanity, as it is. We are animals, no more no less, and unless we literally genetically modify ourselves, we will always have violence within us. Some will always attempt and succeed at using those tendencies to subjugate the many, and the many can do and have suffered generationally, having children who live just to suffer, until finally the many, left with no other recourse, answer in kind, causing change for the better or worse, but on the long arm of history the better.

Your way of thinking comes from conflating often beautiful, even meaningful fiction as applicable to grim reality that doesn’t exist in prose, and isn’t watched over by some ridiculous divine father figure. It’s appealing to Santa Claus in a world built on coercion and exploitation.

Someone who affected real positive change in a tangible sense once said “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”

I’ve explained in a bunch of ways how murder can and does often have nuance based on who is murdered and why.

You appear to ignore those arguments and keep reverting to “murder always bad. Rape always bad, how are they different?” When the premise “murder always bad” you seem to hold as some universal truth isn’t true in a lot of circumstances, some of which I’ve outlined in other comments.

Sometimes murder makes the world a better place. Sometimes it effects positive change. Not usually, but sometimes. Sometimes murdering a murderer is the only way to stop them from murdering more. Sometimes the murderer is so powerful it is the only way to stop them. The trolley problem.

I think your problem is believing you can defeat darkness with light, when the reality is that just gets light crucified and bathes all in perpetual darkness. The unfortunate truth is darkness, whether the fires of hatred or the bone chill of sociopathic greed, only responds to the force they’re so eager to dole out. Light, goodness, benevolence is by its nature amenable, and it is that very benevolence, that flexible, amenable, “can’t we compromise and both exist?” that malelevolence uses to gain dominion, and it never offers the same. Benevolence, when left with no other recourse, must choose to take up the tools so comfortable to malevolence, murder, or be extinguished ie go along which means you’re no longer benevolent, just another compliant subject of the malevolent, and thus complicit.

Oh, Ok, I’m sorry, I inferred a higher level of query when I should have just taken it at face value.

RAPE: unlawful sexual intercourse or any other sexual penetration of the vagina, anus, or mouth of another person, with or without force, by a sex organ, other body part, or foreign object, without the consent of the person subjected to such penetration.

MURDER: the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

You’re the one that keeps conflating rape and murder for some reason. Every point I’ve made has been about how the reasons and subject of murder creates nuance. I think rape and murder are different discussions entirely. Rape is a purely hedonistic act, you can murder in self-defense, or to save others like by ending a war by cutting off the head.

People can and do murder for selfless reasons, knowing they will suffer or die as a result as a shield for those that stand behind them.

I can repost my at length response as to who is murdered and why matters, your response to it would indicate you don’t see the someone murdering an active murderer, or a member of a mass murder movement, as any different than any random murder of hatred or convenience.

Eva Braun apparently just didn’t love Adolf enough to mend his heart.

I would say such a view means you couldn’t love your own children, not being willing to fight those that would, given the opportunity, take money for your child’s care, then deny that care when they needed it to live.

That’s like a cow knowing their child is about to get the piston to their skull and telling their child to love the pistoner with grace. Very Jesus-y, but an awful parent.

I tried to 🤷

Are you familiar with the trolley problem?

You say that as if this is a retaliation, then peace, then retaliation.

United Healthcare murdered people for profit yesterday. They are today. They will tomorrow. This is an active attack. An active slaughter is upon the people, though the owners just call it business, whether we would fight back or not.

Don’t confuse quiet for peace. We haven’t had peace here in decades.

Do you think we could have loved the Nazis into standing down and stopping their genocide?

Do you think you can love a sociopath capitalist murdering for profit into no longer doing so?

Do you think plotting to run up and Hug Brian would have saved a single life? Because BlueCross, at least for now, reversed a policy to deny enough anesthesia for surgeries because of what Luigi allegedly did. He brought about positive change to some, for now, however temporary.

I don’t believe in justice in another life there’s no evidence of. Loving hate just gets you mowed down, this isn’t a fairy tale or a movie. If we want to turn an unjust world into a just one, good vibes won’t cut it when the people in charge don’t even view us as people due to no meaningful net worth.

Who you murder matters.

I have zero problem with all the Nazis the Allies murdered in WW2.

This is a class war occupation. The Class war was lost in the 80s, the people were tricked into surrendering without terms. Luigi, an alleged traitor to his class bless him, tried to foment a resistence/revolution to the class occupation most of us suffer under.

The idea that change must be nonviolent is something that the oligarchs put in our heads to maintain their control, which includes violence using captured government force against us. Most nations were founded using violence, including this one. Further, the oligarchs have captured both major parties, leaving us to bicker on social issues, and without a vote on the shape and priorities of the sociopathic economy both parties are well paid to defend from us, the people that suffer it. Our nonviolent options have been taken away, as we’re encouraged to be divided and hate our fellow laborers on every conceivable wedge so we never look up. Divide and profit.

Brian was murdering Americans in swaths. His murder weapon was snake oil, a con: “buy our service as your preparation for inevitable illness! Just give us your money every month, and you’ll be prepared when you need life saving care…” “… Oh you’re sick now? You’ll die without care you expect us to pay for? Whatever gave you the idea we’d pay for your care? Thanks for all the premiums, fuck off and die, poorie sucker.”

I’m voting Democrat like I always do. I remember being the only non-right wing senior citizen looking person at my polling place for Hilary Clinton when no one showed up. Not with any hope, just so I can say I voted against gleeful hatred.

I’m just pissed that I will never, ever get a vote against market capitalism, as it controls both parties on economic policy and we only get a vote on how to manage the social issue symptoms it causes.