I’ve heard several stories about couples that suddenly stop having sex, start snapping at each other for stupid bs, your girlfriend who was so sweet and supporting becomes her mother, a raging, yelling psychopath, looking for excuses to be passive aggressive, inviting her friends back home when all you want to do is rest after your workday, your boyfriend, so passionate about you is suddenly cold towards you and wants to be left alone. Before having a child you were inseparable, now it’s like you hate each other and rant about your loved one with your friends…

I couldn’t survive such a radical personality change.

Does this phase eventually runs its course?

How do you find the mental fortitude to ignore the stupid bs your partner does or says?

How would you describe love to your partner a year after having a baby?

Is there any way to know if you and your partner are going to make it and remain a couple after having a child?

  • milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee
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    21 days ago

    It’s been tough on us, most of all - as others have said - from the sleep deprivation. For a while we’ve often felt like roommates who happen to be parents of the same child. That’s starting to change now. But, funnily, even in that time of feeling more apart it’s like we work together better too - we’re a better team. I think looking after the baby puts some things in perspective.

    Perhaps the biggest thing I’d advise - and that I think we’ve done well mostly - is having a mindset of family instead of romantic relationship. The romance is something wonderful within the family, rather than the family is an extra thing that comes from the romance.

    So if romance takes a back seat for a while, it’s not like, “oh no, now I have all this hard work and responsibility… one day I’ll be back to the thing I like.” Instead, where ‘couple’ used to be the most important focus of relational life, now ‘family’ is. So all that effort going into baby, baby, baby, is every step investing goodness in your family - so that builds up your relationship too.

    Sorry, maby that’s a bit confusing at the end, I don’t know how to write it well.


    To answer some questions directly,

    Does this phase eventually runs its course?

    The phase of tiredness and struggle, yes… kind of. There’s always new things to cope with with children! But the change in what your relationship looks like? No. You still have a good relationship, but what ‘good’ looks like becomes different, just like what ‘attractive’ looks like becomes different when you go from 20 to 50. Some people don’t handle it well.

    How do you find the mental fortitude to ignore the stupid bs your partner does or says?

    By recognising that you do just as much stupid bs, and by being much quicker to forgive and apologize than to judge. Also by realising your partner’s way of doing something is legitimate even when it’s not the way you’d do it, and knowing when to step back and let them - even support them - rather than butting in with how you should do it different.

    How would you describe love to your partner a year after having a baby?

    Stronger. Stronger on a deep level. We’ve fought so hard to keep our love from being bashed around by stupid bs from outside and inside, both before our child and after. But we have some re-learning to do for how to help our closeness flourish now the baby is less ever-present and all-consuming!

    Is there any way to know if you and your partner are going to make it and remain a couple after having a child?

    Probably not for certain, but there’s many things you can do / look for.

    • be a Family not a Couple. Is life just about sex and the pleasure you get from your partner? Make life about pouring your love and creative expression into your family.

    • Are you married? What holds you together in the hard times? Be truly committed to each other, “for better or for worse,” having absolutely no place for thinking about cheating or breaking up. That clear mindset of faithfulness and together-to-the-end will help you through the hard times.

    • be humble, quick to apologize, quick to forgive, quick to think your partner’s perspective is important even when it seems dumb to you at first glance.

    • how well do you make up when you argue? Can you go to bed after, even during, an argument, and know you love them? Or do you fight and break up until they admit they were wrong? Do you feel together again afterwards, or after each argument do you feel more like it’s time to leave?

    • do you have people around you? Community? Family? Does your partner have friends they can go to and bitch to, to let off steam when things in your little family of you/them/baby feel too intense? Do you have such friends? That’s often more important for women.

    • are your finances ready? And can you talk together about them? Stress from finances often causes big stress in the relationship. But even if you’re poor and financially struggling it doesn’t have to, if you know how to feel together about budgeting, and respect each others’ decisions.


    …well, I’ve rambled on long enough! Hope some of that is helpful.

    • Live Your Lives@lemmy.world
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      As someone who’s been very happily married for a fairly long time now, I’d just like to quickly emphasize to everyone the point about being quicker to forgive than to judge. Love isn’t about constantly being high on happiness but about having such a deep connection with someone that you treat them as you would treat yourself. The golden rule is called the golden rule for a reason. The happiness you are chasing will come naturally.

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      I am self-aware enough to know I would not cope with this well. I can’t imagine having to share my partner’s attention with something else in the relationship. Likewise, I enjoy focusing all my energies on her and her well-being.

      There’s just no room for a baby. We had to have all these discussions before we got married obviously. Door left slightly ajar for adoption when we are in our 40s if we happen to have a change of heart in the next 10 years.

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    There are things you have to be prepared for and you will snap at each other at least once, your life will change and there are good and bad things about it. There are a lot of things you can do to help. Most things come down to proper planning and sticking to a rigid schedule for baby while being flexible about what each parent does. As a father be prepared to do 99% of of household things like cooking, shopping, cleaning, and laundry for about the first month.

    • start sleep training early, like week 2 or 3. The earlier you start establishing a schedule the faster it works. Things get vastly easier if they sleep alone through even part of the night.
    • get mom in post partum therapy right away, it’s more of a when not an if that she will experience some. Most experience mild symptoms, but a mom that gets even more fatigued and snippy makes everything more difficult.
    • your free time will drastically reduce, this can be a big source of problems. Especially in the first few months. You can still do things, and you occasionally should, leaving the house is good for everyone, just be flexible with it. Also find something you can do in short bursts for relaxation.
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    If you enter into starting a family, adding kids through whatever means, and you think this should not alter the relationship, you have another think coming. Kids are hard work. First your focus is to keep them alive and out of trouble. And over time this gradually shifts towards them not becoming a-holes. This takes energy and time, a lot of it. And that’s the most common reason why some couples have much less bedroom fun. They’re exhausted. They’re stressed. People behave differently when they’re exhausted and stressed. Raising kids is a marathon, not a sprint. Ideally, it’s a series of never ending gut wrenching crises until they move out. And truth is it doesn’t even end there. Some relationships handle this better, some don’t. None stay the same. If you think that your current childless relationship is any indication of how this would work with children, and you measure it by loving attention and how much sex you’re having you’re looking at the sky to measure the sea level. Get your head out of the clouds. You have to look at how you handle problems under pressure together. How you can support each other and not look at it as transactional. If that works, you stand a chance of a less bumpy transition into a functional family life.

    Of course, every relationship is different. There are many other factors that will play a part and make shit even more complicated. I’m fairly confident though that I’m more right than wrong here with my generalizations.

    You couldn’t survive such a radical personality change? Yours changed too. You will probably not win any argument on the assumption that your partner changed into a version is their folks while you stayed the exact same. You’re just the frog in the pot who didn’t notice it got hotter.

    I’m a still married father of two.

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    Depends on your age and financial situation the higher it is for both the less you’re gonna have changes and problems

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    You can never know.

    I’m a proponent of having a long relationship before major decisions. I’m not saying people who have kids in their 20’s are doomed, but I believe that having a longstanding strong relationship prior to having kids is key. The fear is still there, but the knowledge of how your partner reacts to strife and hardship, goes a long way compared to NOT knowing.

    As to changes, of course you’ll change. Parenting a newborn is different than parenting a toddler is different than parenting a tween, etc, etc, etc. Embrace the change. Embrace the challenge. Don’t have kids expecting it to be easy.

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    I run pretty hot usually, good sex drive, but nursing absolutely dampened that down to below zero. Plus sex is frightening after birth. Plus having kids hanging on you all the time can certainly make you long for some space with nobody touching you, and a guy asking for sex on top of that can feel like an obligation. Again - I am saying this as someone who literally has sex every day most of the time, and pregnancy made sex feel even better. Nursing killed my sex drive. YES it passes, assuming your kids are healthy, they are easier over time, and eventually even somewhat helpful. Once that babyhood was over, I’d say they were stressful in the way a second job is - it’s just more of everything.

    Overall I would say kids were good for the relationship, we stayed together longer and happier because of them. My ex was helpful as a dad, wanted kids, as I did. Kids are hands down the best work I’ve done in my life, nothing else comes close. But it is stressful as fuck, yes. Especially at the start.

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    One thing that’s overlooked is the catalyst for all these changes is the same thing. Massive massive sleep deprivation.

    Honestly, to start with, some days you’ll be surviving on two hours of sleep. And it takes years to get back to feeling ‘normal’.

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      Shifts! Once my wife and I got the hang of things. We started taking shifts at night so we could get at least 4 hours of uninterrupted sleep. Game changer

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      Sleep deprivation is literally a torture technique. I am thankful that people do choose to try to raise children with this in mind, but it just sounds like literal torture to me. Even with people who tell me how much they supposedly love raising kids, I see the immense pain and suffering that they go through literally all the time.

      My guess is that some powerful hormones must be released or something after having a child to make people think that they are enjoying their life even though an outside observer can view their immense suffering.

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        My guess is that some powerful hormones must be released or something after having a child to make people think that they are enjoying their life even though an outside observer can view their immense suffering.

        It’s partly that, and partly that the brain needs sleep to form memories and to think things through to conclusion - so we (parents) are all a little delusional and don’t really remember how hard the early part was.

        (I adore my kids!)

        Pro tip: smell their heads as often as possible. There’s all kinds of healthy chemical bonding that comes from that delightful fresh baby head smell.

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    Having babies made my wife more affectionate and concerned about my own well-being. It was so great, we now have 11 children together. She’s a real blessing.

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      Im not gonna lie, as a parent, I assume people who have more than like 4 kids are either insane or massive narcissists.