If supporting Israel, a fascist state, in foreign policy makes one fascist (a point of view equivocating support with total identification that I strongly disagree with, mind) the vast majority of the US is fascist, including a supermajority of Dem voters, and you aren’t going to win a democratic election on an anti-fascist platform.
Harris expressed a shift away from the unconditional Zionism of Biden and was punished by voters for it. Surely that will teach the DNC to [checks notes] support Israel less.
“But we let the MORE Zionist candidate win because we OPPOSE Zionism!”
Damn bang-up job of expressing that, like beating a dog for not coming to you fast enough when ordered.
the genocidal terror entity couldn’t do the genocide it’s been doing without endless US bombs, air defenses, and aircraft carriers attacking their enemies that are blockading them. The Democrats have participated in this genocide because as Biden said: “if Israel didn’t exist we would have to create one to protect our interests in the region”
If “winning” means electing people to represent me who then go on to co-sign a genocide I would rather lose and be done with the charade.
She did nothing of the sort, and any lip service given it was too little too late. They swapped her in at practically the last minute, long after the point where there could have been a primary. Maybe someone who wasn’t already vice president during a literal genocide could have stood a better chance.
Both candidates are zionist, The outcome is the same. Republicans are architects of the final solution, but Democrats would willingly participate as long as it polled well and was spread out on a manageable timeline that was not too visible.
the genocidal terror entity couldn’t do the genocide it’s been doing without endless US bombs, air defenses, and aircraft carriers attacking their enemies that are blockading them.
“Israel couldn’t do it if the Houthis weren’t suppressed!”
Fucking lol.
If “winning” means electing people to represent me who then go on to co-sign a genocide I would rather lose and be done with the charade.
Congratulations, you get your wish. Now millions more people will be murdered, including millions more Palestinians. Congratulations on being an even bigger Palestinian genocide supporter than Joe fucking Biden! It’s no small achievement, so if you want, I can find you a sticker to wear proudly, if you like.
She did nothing of the sort, and any lip service given it was too little too late. They swapped her in at practically the last minute, long after the point where there could have been a primary. Maybe someone who wasn’t already vice president during a literal genocide could have stood a better chance.
Love the scattershot reply to a simple statement. Keep beating that dog, it’ll come to you eventually.
and aircraft carriers attacking their enemies that are blockading them.
“Israel couldn’t do it if the Houthis weren’t suppressed!”
Fucking lol.
the point is that they deployed multiple carrier strike groups to protect shipping to Israel, that’s pretty direct support. The attacks have been making an impact.
Golly gee, it’s sure a good thing that shipping to Israel is what the Houthis have been targeting all this time, right?
… r-right…?
The Houthis are Iranian proxies whose primary concern is serving Iranian foreign policy interests in disrupting international trade that has very little to do with Israeli shipping and resulted in fucking Egypt sending forces along because of how damaging its been to trade through the Suez Canal (very little of which goes to Israel).
Not only that, but by your own argument, the Houthis aren’t suppressed, which raises the fucking question of why Israel seems to be carrying on with its genocide unimpeded (PROTIP: it’s because the Houthi blockade targeting random ships in international waters in order to disable the least important of Israel’s ports is not actually all that important to Israel except in delivering an easy PR win to Israel)
Even more astounding is that the Houthis are, themselves, literally genocidal, yet they get unabashed bootlicking from supposed leftists over costing Israel a few billion dollars. How many billions of dollars more, do you think, will Trump be giving Israel compared to Harris? But apparently, critical support for pro-genocide lunatics who reduce Israel’s budget by a few meager bil only counts for the Iranian proxies, and not the anti-fascist coalition candidate.
Yes, because you elected the literal Nazis! Soon, they’ll be executing LGB folk just like holsum critically supported Iran and the Houthis do!
Multiple US aircraft carriers were sent to protect Israels least important port from the second-poorest country in the region.
To protect international trade, since the Houthis have targeted very few Israeli or Israel-bound ships, instead cratering shipping along the Red Sea entirely. But hey, at least they had a nice little excuse for ‘leftists’ like you to bootlick them while they murder LGBT folk and starve out dissidents! Golly gee, wouldn’t it be terrible if you were supporting some fascist group like Israel? Good thing you’d never do that, right?
Both candidates are zionist, The outcome is the same. Republicans are architects of the final solution, but Democrats like you would willingly participate as long as it polled well and was spread out on a manageable timeline that the consequences were not too visible.
Ah, yes, the super-leftist “We’re all going to die” argument. There’s no sense in having more time to fight fascism; what we REALLY need to do is roll over and let it happen. More genocide, as fast as possible! That’s what TRUE leftists like you do, right? 😊
How is spending another 4 years at brunch while Gaza is turned into a parking lot suddenly fighting fascism? Democrats would be vindicated in their genocidal behavior and act like they were just savvy and correct.
You seem really fixated with painting yourself as an anti-fascist, while simultaneously attempting to browbeat people into voting for the Democrats, while they were openly participating in a genocide.
How is spending another 4 years at brunch while Gaza is turned into a parking lot suddenly fighting fascism?
Having four years to fight against that mentality is a hell of a lot fucking better than turning Gaza into a parking lot now.
But like I said, you have the same mentality as the fascist ghouls you so eagerly enable - we’re all going to die - so why not now?
Democrats would be vindicated in their genocidal behavior and act like they were just savvy and correct.
I’ve been following the Israel-Palestine situation and US public opinion on it for as long as I’ve been political - ie as long as I’ve been in double-digits. US public opinion on Israel hasn’t changed in a fucking decade of genocide, and not for three decades of genocide before that. The post-2023 situation was the first major shift in US public opinion on Israel in my fucking lifetime, and instead of trying to make the most of the shift, which was largely Dems voters shifting to ‘qualified support’ instead of ‘unqualified support’ purity-testing leftists, in the literal millions, decided to toss the election to the most pro-Israel ghoul America has ever had.
You had an opportunity to decouple the US from Israel. Instead, you decided to hand over the US to a fascist regime which will do anything for Israel. Great job.
You seem really fixated with painting yourself as an anti-fascist, while simultaneously attempting to browbeat people into voting for the Democrats, while they were openly participating in a genocide.
Yes, under the same principles as WW2. I would probably be telling people that supporting the British Empire or the USA or the Soviet Union was non-negotiable despite all being imperialist genocidal states. But at least you would’ve had the smug satisfaction of declaring both sides were just as bad as the Nazis herded us into camps. You would’ve been the only TRUE anti-fascist of the lot, putting your thumb up your ass and refusing even the merest, most meager assistance to so-called ‘anti-fascist’ forces. :)
You had an opportunity to decouple the US from Israel. Instead, you decided to hand over the US to a fascist regime which will do anything for Israel. Great job.
Trust me, my vote had zero impact on the election. Biden kicked more people off Medicaid than the number Kamala lost by, by like an order of magnitude. 25 mil unenrolled from Medicaid by “ending” COVID
It seems like a bit of a sideshow to be blaming leftists when the people doing the most damage to electoral Democrats were Joe Biden and his co-conspirators.
The only people tossing the election to the the fascists were the people literally in power at the time who decided that it was more important to protect Israel and “nothing will fundamentally change” than winning an election.
Yes, under the same principles as WW2. I would probably be telling people that supporting the British Empire or the USA or the Soviet Union was non-negotiable despite all being imperialist genocidal states.
I support a popular front, it’s why I am fine working with Marxists as an anarchist. Democrat politicians are not anti-fascist, at best they are collaborators, at worst active participants. Most Democrat voters who I run into in daily life are considerably less ride-or-die for Israel than their politicians.
as long as you’re not Palestinian the Democrats are “anti-fascist™”
If supporting Israel, a fascist state, in foreign policy makes one fascist (a point of view equivocating support with total identification that I strongly disagree with, mind) the vast majority of the US is fascist, including a supermajority of Dem voters, and you aren’t going to win a democratic election on an anti-fascist platform.
Harris expressed a shift away from the unconditional Zionism of Biden and was punished by voters for it. Surely that will teach the DNC to [checks notes] support Israel less.
“But we let the MORE Zionist candidate win because we OPPOSE Zionism!”
Damn bang-up job of expressing that, like beating a dog for not coming to you fast enough when ordered.
If “winning” means electing people to represent me who then go on to co-sign a genocide I would rather lose and be done with the charade.
Both candidates are zionist, The outcome is the same. Republicans are architects of the final solution, but Democrats would willingly participate as long as it polled well and was spread out on a manageable timeline that was not too visible.
“Israel couldn’t do it if the Houthis weren’t suppressed!”
Fucking lol.
Congratulations, you get your wish. Now millions more people will be murdered, including millions more Palestinians. Congratulations on being an even bigger Palestinian genocide supporter than Joe fucking Biden! It’s no small achievement, so if you want, I can find you a sticker to wear proudly, if you like.
Love the scattershot reply to a simple statement. Keep beating that dog, it’ll come to you eventually.
the point is that they deployed multiple carrier strike groups to protect shipping to Israel, that’s pretty direct support. The attacks have been making an impact.
“to protect shipping to Israel”
Golly gee, it’s sure a good thing that shipping to Israel is what the Houthis have been targeting all this time, right?
… r-right…?
The Houthis are Iranian proxies whose primary concern is serving Iranian foreign policy interests in disrupting international trade that has very little to do with Israeli shipping and resulted in fucking Egypt sending forces along because of how damaging its been to trade through the Suez Canal (very little of which goes to Israel).
Not only that, but by your own argument, the Houthis aren’t suppressed, which raises the fucking question of why Israel seems to be carrying on with its genocide unimpeded (PROTIP: it’s because the Houthi blockade targeting random ships in international waters in order to disable the least important of Israel’s ports is not actually all that important to Israel except in delivering an easy PR win to Israel)
Even more astounding is that the Houthis are, themselves, literally genocidal, yet they get unabashed bootlicking from supposed leftists over costing Israel a few billion dollars. How many billions of dollars more, do you think, will Trump be giving Israel compared to Harris? But apparently, critical support for pro-genocide lunatics who reduce Israel’s budget by a few meager bil only counts for the Iranian proxies, and not the anti-fascist coalition candidate.
At this point the US is the greater evil, I don’t care about demonizing its enemies.
Multiple US aircraft carriers were sent to protect Israels least important port from the second-poorest country in the region. Under Biden.
Yes, because you elected the literal Nazis! Soon, they’ll be executing LGB folk just like holsum critically supported Iran and the Houthis do!
To protect international trade, since the Houthis have targeted very few Israeli or Israel-bound ships, instead cratering shipping along the Red Sea entirely. But hey, at least they had a nice little excuse for ‘leftists’ like you to bootlick them while they murder LGBT folk and starve out dissidents! Golly gee, wouldn’t it be terrible if you were supporting some fascist group like Israel? Good thing you’d never do that, right?
Oh no, cratering international shipping and hurting free trade opposing a genocidal settler state 🎻
I’m an anarchist lol why do you think I would care about free trade
Both candidates are zionist, The outcome is the same. Republicans are architects of the final solution, but Democrats like you would willingly participate as long as it polled well and was spread out on a manageable timeline that the consequences were not too visible.
The sad part is that it didn’t even poll well. The Democrats actually gave up voters to continue being Zionists.
Ah, yes, the super-leftist “We’re all going to die” argument. There’s no sense in having more time to fight fascism; what we REALLY need to do is roll over and let it happen. More genocide, as fast as possible! That’s what TRUE leftists like you do, right? 😊
How is spending another 4 years at brunch while Gaza is turned into a parking lot suddenly fighting fascism? Democrats would be vindicated in their genocidal behavior and act like they were just savvy and correct.
You seem really fixated with painting yourself as an anti-fascist, while simultaneously attempting to browbeat people into voting for the Democrats, while they were openly participating in a genocide.
Having four years to fight against that mentality is a hell of a lot fucking better than turning Gaza into a parking lot now.
But like I said, you have the same mentality as the fascist ghouls you so eagerly enable - we’re all going to die - so why not now?
I’ve been following the Israel-Palestine situation and US public opinion on it for as long as I’ve been political - ie as long as I’ve been in double-digits. US public opinion on Israel hasn’t changed in a fucking decade of genocide, and not for three decades of genocide before that. The post-2023 situation was the first major shift in US public opinion on Israel in my fucking lifetime, and instead of trying to make the most of the shift, which was largely Dems voters shifting to ‘qualified support’ instead of ‘unqualified support’ purity-testing leftists, in the literal millions, decided to toss the election to the most pro-Israel ghoul America has ever had.
You had an opportunity to decouple the US from Israel. Instead, you decided to hand over the US to a fascist regime which will do anything for Israel. Great job.
Yes, under the same principles as WW2. I would probably be telling people that supporting the British Empire or the USA or the Soviet Union was non-negotiable despite all being imperialist genocidal states. But at least you would’ve had the smug satisfaction of declaring both sides were just as bad as the Nazis herded us into camps. You would’ve been the only TRUE anti-fascist of the lot, putting your thumb up your ass and refusing even the merest, most meager assistance to so-called ‘anti-fascist’ forces. :)
Trust me, my vote had zero impact on the election. Biden kicked more people off Medicaid than the number Kamala lost by, by like an order of magnitude. 25 mil unenrolled from Medicaid by “ending” COVID
It seems like a bit of a sideshow to be blaming leftists when the people doing the most damage to electoral Democrats were Joe Biden and his co-conspirators.
The only people tossing the election to the the fascists were the people literally in power at the time who decided that it was more important to protect Israel and “nothing will fundamentally change” than winning an election.
I support a popular front, it’s why I am fine working with Marxists as an anarchist. Democrat politicians are not anti-fascist, at best they are collaborators, at worst active participants. Most Democrat voters who I run into in daily life are considerably less ride-or-die for Israel than their politicians.