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    Yeah you didn’t actually address my point that the DNC squashes Progressive politics so that there isn’t a progressive wing and there will not be one in the DNC. It’s fun to pretend though but you did actually address this concern though.

    It’s not my fault that you lack creativity and are unable to imagine a way of helping people that doesn’t involve electoralism and think that’s abandoning people 🙄

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      Yeah you didn’t actually address my point that the DNC squashes Progressive politics so that there isn’t a progressive wing and there will not be one in the DNC. It’s fun to pretend though but you did actually address this concern though.

      Because you don’t vote. And we won’t have a third party win local elections because tankies discourage taking action to win those elections.

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        Ooo. Finally we got a reason.

        Explain how me not voting, which you have no idea if I did or not, fails to push Progressive politics in the dnc?

        I also didn’t say that you shouldn’t vote only that you shouldn’t waste your time with electoralism. Meaning that people should vote for who they want regardless of the screeching the liberals do. And that they shouldn’t waste their time doing anything with those parties since local organizations are far more important than political parties.

        Here in fact I got a great Counterpoint to this idiotic line of thinking. In 2020 we had the largest voting turnout we have ever had And end it up With one of the most institutional governments the Democrats have ever given us. How come that didn’t result into the progressive Wing that you keep talking about? We also have record-setting votes during the midterms 2022. I wonder what happened to those progressives. It’s not like we have a foreign lobbyist organization that does its best to ensure that progressives can’t get anywhere. It’s also not like the powers that be in the DNC do their absolute best to ensure that progressives can’t get anywhere.

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            I see there’s no response to me completely dismantling your point about creating a progressive Wing in the DNC.

            Can we stop pretending electoralism is important? As I said multiple multiple times in this thread people should be spending their energy locally organizing with local organizations that do things like Feed the Homeless, or help those in a poverty situation.

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                Yes we spent so much time and energy in electoralism to just for the Democrats to give the election to Trump 👍

                What a wonderful use of our time, energy, and money.

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                    Yes and harping on those apathetic voters to vote for harm reduction has been such a wonderful strategy for the past 20 years.

                    If you want those apathetic voters to vote you need to get them involved in local organizations so that they can actually see change in their local community. This gets people engage in politics and they will do things like engaging electoralism and go vote which deals with the apathetic voter issue.

                    But you don’t get there by solely focusing on getting people to vote. You get there on getting people engaged with their local organizations in their community.