• dastanktal@lemmy.ml
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    LOCALLY ORGANIZE

    I don’t think I can be much clear about the solution. Do you think voting in 2026/2028 is going to save us? Thats funny. How about we focus on making it to 2028.

    I don’t want people to waste their time volunteering with the Democrats when they could be working with one of the other hundreds of local organizations that actually uplift there community instead of just burn the averages voters goodwill

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        You know there’s an efficient use of time and then there is a waste of time right?

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          Yeah, which is why I am saying to put some of that protest energy into voting as well. We need to follow though to get policy. Otherwise the protest was just a hangout.

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            But we don’t get to vote on policy. Not often. Not on the federal level and very rarely in a way that matters locally.

            Our Representatives don’t represent us and our government does not represent the majority will of the people and hasn’t regardless of which party is in office.

            I’m not saying that people shouldn’t vote I’m saying that people shouldn’t waste time convincing others to vote or who to vote for.

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              I’m not saying that people shouldn’t vote I’m saying that people shouldn’t waste time convincing others to vote or who to vote for.

              I just don’t care about people trying to organize and won’t waste my time helping others beyond my most intimidate eye sight

              Fuck bro can you imagine if we had a SC that could rule that the overturning of RoeVWade is not allowed? Or that the shipments of more ammo to Israel needs to be stopped. Privileged people like you are not in the front line, but you are abandoning those who are.

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                I just don’t care about people trying to organize and won’t waste my time helping others beyond my most intimidate eye sight

                Yep. You caught me. Local organization helps with none of these things and you’re right I should waste more of my time trying to convince people to vote in a system that won’t represent them or fix anything.

                Really you should take this attitude to a Native American reservation watch how it plays out. I’m sure they won’t have a ton of reasons why they refuse to vote in the US elections. And I’m sure they won’t take any offense to you claiming that they’re in a privileged position to not vote.

                we had a SC that could rule that the overturning of RoeVWade is not allowed

                Yes Supreme Court that acts like that would be nice. Too bad that’s literally never existed in the United States for its entire history.

                You know what else would be nice if Bernie got elected in 2016 but over in reality we have to deal with what’s here. Not idealism land where if you logic hard enough you can get all the apathetic voters to vote and every voter who’s going to vote third party to vote for the party of your choice.

                Your mistake is thinking that people are rational creatures that will always make a decision based on that rationality when in fact we are irrational creatures that contain a multitude of contradictory opinions.

                Reality is recognizing that there is no magic wand to make apathetic voters come to the table and your pleas about minority safety will fall on deaf ears. Americans are an incredibly selfish bunch.

                Call me privileged all you want you have no idea about my life who I am what I’m protecting or what I need to do to survive. It’s almost like one should say that you need to check your privilege

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                  Really you should take this attitude to a Native American reservation watch how it plays out.

                  Well there aren’t any near me so no can do chief… unless i vote for someone that will expand aid to them…

                  who I am what I’m protecting or what I need to do to survive.

                  Would you vote to help keep their rights?

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                    Your Privilege is showing again. Native Americans aren’t exactly Keen on getting us Aid. Something about the numerous strings attached.

                    I would vote pragmatically for the candidate who promises to do the most with the best track record. Which probably won’t be the Democrat or the Republican.